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far-reaching and inclusive discussions I ever have seen at AEJMC in more than
20 years. It needs to be shared more broadly, especially with the ASJMC
(administrators) group. Maybe AEJMC or ASJMC can find a way to link the
e-mails to their websites—or even find a way to get it in print beyond
the Newspaper Division!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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for the double post.<br>
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Yes, I agree with much of what has been said in this thread, especially the
comments regarding grabbing the online or new media label. These
are delivery systems and, as such, are bound to be outdated as soon as we use
them. It’s like calling ourselves convergence. Convergence is
a given, one we barely need to teach anymore as students come in with converged
media experience from their daily media use. As Jobs and Gates said in a
recent NYT article, content is key—the delivery systems of the future are
still unknown. Therefore, linking our future to either or all is a
short-term solution. Yet, it’s not fair to lay claim to journalism or
news—other divisions, other media, also do journalism and news. <br>
So, what to do? One thought I’ve liked is to remain the Newspaper
division, which brings with it the history and gravitas of the
profession. For example, you don’t see Theater departments changing
their names wholesale to something like Multimedia Performance, even though
that is what they, increasingly, do.<br>
I think I’m with the folks who say stay with Newspaper—but then, at
the same time, we must do some educating so that people begin to think of
Newspaper as including online, etc.<br>
My .02.<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:news-list-bounces@aejmc.net">news-list-bounces@aejmc.net</a>
on behalf of Jean Ann Colbert<br>
Sent: Tue 7/22/2008 5:50 PM<br>
To: Members Newspaper Division; JOHN B ZIBLUK; Kathleen Wickham<br>
Subject: Re: [AEJMC Newspaper Division list] Beyond the name change<br>
<br>
Yes! We need to talk with other divisions. Wally's idea and Jack's comments
below are sensible and thought-provoking. This issue affects many divisions and
I'm not comfortable with the idea of just grabbing the online connection.<br>
Ann Colbert<br>
<br>
>>> "JOHN B ZIBLUK" <<a href="mailto:JZIBLUK@astate.edu">JZIBLUK@astate.edu</a>>
7/22/2008 8:52 AM >>><br>
Colleagues:<br>
<br>
Not only do Kathleen's associates in RTV face the same issues, folks in Viscomm
and othe divisions face it too.<br>
<br>
I think it's important to be pro-active here rather than reactive. The
name-change discussion is really just the first layer of the onion here. There
are a lot of layers we need to peel back in order to get to the core..and as
with an onion, there will be some tears along the way.<br>
<br>
I love wally's idea of putting together a study group or commission to come up
with a plan of action. The name change would be part of a larger picture.<br>
We need to look at the direction of our scholarship and of our teaching. I have
a master's in public admin and I co-authored the strategic plan for the National
Press Photographers recently. I would love to really work on something for our
group. The AEJMC strategic plan is coming out and we can integrate/articulate
with that plan. Or do something deeper.<br>
<br>
I have done a lot of interdisciplinary work of late and I find a lot of other
constituencies are doing media/news/communications work. But they hate
journalism and journalists. As newspapers shrink, shed and morph, their role is
being taken up by many forms of communications on-line and off including niche
publications, webpages blogs, wikis and more stuff than I can name.<br>
<br>
In the face of these changes,niche scholarship broadens and atomizes. We study
entertainment, social networks, religion, business and PR..all of which are
straying further from newspapers and the traditional early 20th Century
"objective" news paradigm. Are students are lookign for jobs? where
are they? Wil they be information officers for niche organizations,
pubnlications, non profits and businesses? independent entrepreneurs?<br>
<br>
How do we engage with the non-journalism journalists who need our help and
expertise?<br>
<br>
I dunno.<br>
<br>
But what I do know is that we need to prepare our students for the new world;
we need to focus our scholarship on understanding it.<br>
<br>
We don't need to re-trench within our old boxes......<br>
<br>
Let's take this on as a profession. A commission, study group or whatever is
warranted and needed.<br>
<br>
jack<br>
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John B. (Jack) Zibluk, Ph.D.<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:news-list-bounces@aejmc.net">news-list-bounces@aejmc.net</a>
on behalf of Kathleen Wickham<br>
Sent: Mon 7/21/2008 12:49 PM<br>
To: Members Newspaper Division<br>
Subject: Re: [AEJMC Newspaper Division list] (no subject)<br>
<br>
Susan: Thank you for posting the name change issue on the list-serv.<br>
I've enjoyed reading the robust discussion.<br>
I am torn. As a former newspaper
reporter (10 years in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">New Jersey</st1:place></st1:State>)
my<br>
heart is in the newsroom and in the term Newspaper Division. I know <br>
newspaper are facing stiff economic times. But I also know that the<br>
online version originates in that print newsroom. And I know that what<br>
we do: reporting, writing and editing contributes to the community and<br>
has an important role in a democracy. I am also aware that broadcast<br>
outlets also use the online world as part of its mission and<br>
connections with the community. Their goals mirror newspaper goals.<br>
And, of course then there are all
those forms of what I call<br>
independent news sources that may or may to meet the same journalistic<br>
standards. Bloggers, citizen journalists, virtual worlds and other<br>
forms developed and still not even conceived.<br>
As a former Newspaper Division head
(2006-2007) I recognize that<br>
problem Susan is trying to countered with the name change--decreased<br>
membership and decreased paper submissions. The issue is not just about<br>
recognizing our heritage but about positioning ourselves for the<br>
future. And certainly expanded editions in our paper calls and on our<br>
list-serv would help to educate researchers seeking a home.<br>
I also recognize the
importance, value and wonderful diversity of<br>
AEJMC's many divisions and interest groups. It would be inappropriate<br>
to rename our division the Journalism Division for all members of AEJMC<br>
are committed to journalism.<br>
In fact, as I was preparing this
post I had a conversation with an<br>
officer with RTVJ re: this very issue. Their list-serv has also been<br>
busy this week discussing our conversation. What they object to most,<br>
according to my friend, is that Newspaper would lay claim to Journalism<br>
as its title. That suggestion is viewed as arrogant and insulting.<br>
As I pondered this
issue during a long drive this weekend, I came<br>
up with two titles for consideration: News Media Division or <br>
Newspaper/Online News Division. I prefer the latter as it
recognizes<br>
that "newspaper" can be viewed as a generic definition of what we do<br>
(producing an independent source of news important in a democracy) yet<br>
encompasses online realities.<br>
I would reject some of the other
suggestions as too banal: New media<br>
(its been around for over a decade so it is hardly new--I wrote a book<br>
on Online Journalism in 1997) and News-Editorial reads like a
course<br>
sequence.<br>
<br>
Kathleen Wickham<br>
<br>
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