AEJMC Newspaper & Online News Division This list serve isn't cutting it

[Eric Newton]

That's a fine suggestion. What I've suggested is that the j/comm schools themselves take on the role of community news provider and news lab and the research is done on their own experiments, that way the professionals running the news orgs and the professors doing the research on them. Very little is known about the science of engagement or impact.

E

From: Cross, Al [mailto:acros3 at email.uky.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:58 AM
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I agree. Papers of this size are the healthiest in the business and there is a burning desire among them to improve quality and be on the cutting edge, not just in adapting to digital but in advancing journalism and democracy.

Al Cross
Institute for Rural Journalism and Community Issues
U. of Ky.

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On Jun 26, 2012, at 10:51 AM, "Steve Ross" <editorsteve at gmail.com<mailto:editorsteve at gmail.com>> wrote:
There's a sweet spot in the newspaper business right now -- papers in the 10-50,000 circ range. Have editors and reporters at those places join the debate. Ask the best of them how they are being served by the schools, and ask them what research they would use, if they are ignoring academia now.
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Steve Ross <editorsteve at gmail.com<mailto:editorsteve at gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm far from defending the status quo, as you know. But my own studies on newspaper economics, based on real numbers, have been universally derided by academics and newspaper folk (except for my consulting clients) WHO HAVE ONLY THEIR OWN OPINIONS.

Lots of bloviating, not much analysis. And it is killing the business.

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Eric Newton <newton at knightfoundation.org<mailto:newton at knightfoundation.org>> wrote:
Steve,

Yes, you are correct in the detail comment: there were good and helpful suggestions about how to make research more useful until it degenerated into what I mentioned. I provided a headline.

About a debate, there's no problem finding people to argue that journalism education needs huge reforms.  Jarvis, Finberg, Ceppos and Newton all have written recently. The issue is that the people who want to defend the status quo. Who will speak in public?

Eric




From: Steve Ross [mailto:editorsteve at gmail.com<mailto:editorsteve at gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 10:29 AM
To: Eric Newton
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Eric,

Whom would you choose for the debate?

Also, there are professional journalists on this list. I love to teach, but I am back mainly to being a professional journalist, and have been since 2005. There are also former professionals on the list. It is not "merely" professors talking to professors."

Steve
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Eric Newton <newton at knightfoundation.org<mailto:newton at knightfoundation.org>> wrote:
Professors talking to professors about how journalists don't understand... Not the best way to advance the issue. How about a public debate? Let's see how many of your points hold up to counterargument.

Eric Newton




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