[AEJMC Newspaper Division list] New name for newspaper

[joseph bernt]

Jack,

I suggest, if there is such a desperate need to become more amorphous in 
name, "News-Editorial Division" as being sufficiently distinct from 
Magazine and Radio Television Journalism that a turf war wouldn't break out 
and as being reflective of the essentials associated with the construction 
of news appropriate to newspapers and related derivative media.

Joe Bernt

--On Friday, July 18, 2008 1:09 PM -0400 "Rosenberry, Jack" 
<JackR at sjfc.edu> wrote:

>
> As much as I like the simple elegance of "News Division" or even Gene's
> suggestion of "News Media," I fear it would be a name with "turf battle"
> written all over it it, as several others have pointed out. (About the
> only worse term in that regard would be "Journalism Division.")
>
> I've been reading all the posts with great interest, and am honestly torn
> in my feelings. I think the rationale Susan has articulated for changing
> the name is sound, and when she first suggested it to me I thought it
> sounded very worthwhile. But on the other hand it seems as if all the
> various alternatives that have arisen through this discussion are flawed
> in one way or the other (again, as pointed out in several other
> postings). If we can't come up with something better than what we have,
> then we don't have a good justification for making such a profound change.
>
> So, I'm going to just keep reading. Keep these well-thought and
> provocative posts coming, please!
>
> Jack Rosenberry
> St. John Fisher College
>
>
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> I like the news media division idea.
> Gene Murray
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>    1. Re: New name for Newspaper Division? (guido stempel)
>    2. Re: New name for Newspaper Division? (Edward C. Pease)
>    3. FW: You're invited to Dart Reception (Susan Keith)
>    4. new name for Newspaper Division (grundmmj at jmu.edu)
>    5. Re: New name for Newspaper Division? (Bob Stepno)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:55:46 -0400
> From: guido stempel <stempel at ohio.edu>
> Subject: Re: [AEJMC Newspaper Division list] New name for Newspaper
> 	Division?
> To: susank at scils.rutgers.edu, news-list at aejmc.net
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> Prof. Keith:
>    I think you are right about the division name.  I would suggest News
> Media Division.
>                        Guido Stempel
>
> --On Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:16 AM -0400 Susan Keith
> <susank at scils.rutgers.edu> wrote:
>
>> Dear Newspaper Division colleagues,
>>
>> I'm writing to ask you to consider an issue that the division's
> executive
>> committee will be discussing next month in Chicago: whether   the
>> Newspaper Division of AEJMC should consider changing its name.
>>
>> In the July issue of our division newsletter, LeadTime, I argued that
> --
>> in keeping with AEJMC's focus this year on the future of our field --
> our
>> division should expand its name to clearly indicate that it embraces
> the
>> study of online and other types of journalism practiced by newspaper
>> companies. If you are away from the location where you receive your
> mailed
>> copy, you can download a PDF of the newsletter from
>> http://aejmc.net/newspaper/leadtime/leadtime_july_2008.pdf But I will
>> briefly recap my reasons for suggesting a name change here:
>>
>> 1. "Newspaper" no longer accurately describes the full range of
> products
>> that traditional print journalism outlets are producing.
>>
>> 2. "Newspaper" no longer accurately describes the full range of
>> journalistic work that our division members study. At the Chicago
>> convention, we will hear research presentations on newspaper online
>> interactivity, copy editors' roles in the "digital revolution," online
>> citizen journalism and reporters' blogs.
>>
>> 3. Giving the division a name that accurately reflects the breadth of
> our
>> interests might help us stem a decline in membership. Although the
>> Newspaper Division remains the largest in AEJMC (by just 20 members),
>> membership has fallen 13.3 percent since 2004, from 684 to 593. It's
>> impossible to say for sure what caused the decline, but it's possible
>> that some AEJMC members are not joining our division or renewing
>> membership in it because they think all we are concerned with is what
>> some view as a dying medium. (I don't share that view, but it is out
>> there.)
>>
>> 4. Giving the division a name that accurately reflects the breadth of
> our
>> interests might help us stem a decline over the past few years in
> paper
>> submissions. Again, it's impossible to say for sure why our
> submissions
>> have been down, but it may be that scholars studying such topics as
>> online news sites, for example, have perceived our division as being
>> focused only on news printed on paper.
>>
>> 5. Expanding our division's name to something like "Newspaper and
> Online
>> Journalism Division" or "Newspaper and Newer Media Division" -- or
> some
>> better name members suggest -- would let us offer a division home to
> the
>> scholars who study online and newer media journalism. Some of those
> people
>> are now affiliated with AEJMC's Communication Technology Division. But
> for
>> others, whose work is focused more on *journalism* than *technology,*
> that
>> division may not seem like the perfect fit.
>>
>> 6. Expanding our division's name might help us better weather any
> internal
>> reorganization that grows out of adopting the AEJMC Strategic Plan,
> which
>> members will be asked to vote on in Chicago. (You can read more about
> it,
>> from my perspective, here:
>> http://aejmc.net/newspaper/leadtime/leadtime_march2008.pdf.)
>>
>> A few of you have already responded to my print column explaining why
> you
>> do or do not support a name change. I will be sharing your opinions
> with
>> the membership via this list (unless you asked me not to). I hope that
>> this note in your e-mail box will prompt more of you to respond and
> share
>> your opinions about whether changing the division's name is a good
> idea
>> and, if so, what the new name should be.
>>
>> You can share your thoughts by sending a note to the Newspaper
> Division
>> e-mail list at news-list at aejmc.net  I hope you'll share your opinions
>> publically, but if you'd rather send them just to me, you may do so at
>> susank at scils.rutgers.edu.
>>
>> I look forward to hearing from you!
>>
>> Susan Keith, Ph.D.
>> 2007-2008 AEJMC Newspaper Division head
>> Assistant professor
>> Department of Journalism and Media Studies
>> School of Communication, Information and Library Studies
>> Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey
>> 4 Huntington Street
>> New Brunswick, NJ 08901
>> (732) 932-7500, ext. 8235
>> susank at scils.rutgers.edu
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>> Office: CILS 106
>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:30:28 -0600
> From: "Edward C. Pease" <ted.pease at usu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [AEJMC Newspaper Division list] New name for Newspaper
> 	Division?
> To: Dorothy Bowles <bowles at utk.edu>
> Cc: Nancy Green <Nancy.Green at lee.net>,	"news-list at aejmc.net"
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> I think we should all call ourselves Factoids Instruction Delivery
> Gnomes, but FIDG doesn't make a good acronym.
>
> I'm noodling new names for the Newspaper Division that would provide
> a good acronym--for essential branding purposes. The best I have so
> far are NOD (Newspaper & Online Division) and SNOT (Society for News
> and Other Things). Oh, and NADD! (Newspapers Aren't Dead, Dammit!).
> Further research is needed.
>
> Too many of us are at our computers during summer and bored enough to
> join this conversation. Myself, I'm avoiding editing page proofs.
>
> TED (Totally Erudite Drone)
>
> On Jul 17, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Dorothy Bowles wrote:
>
>> Good point, Nancy. So to avoid redundancy, I guess that leads us to
>> the name AEJMC  "Content Division."
>>
>> Dorothy
>>
>> On Thursday, July 17, 2008, at 02:42  PM, Nancy Green wrote:
>>
>> News is great but many parts of our new world are centered around
>> news/information with information centers being a term that is
>> encompassing online, print and other electronic communications like
>> texting, podcasts, etc.
>>
>>
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>> From:news-list-bounces at aejmc.net [mailto:news-list-
>> bounces at aejmc.net] On Behalf OfDorothy Bowles
>> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 12:21 PM
>> To: news-list at aejmc.net
>> Subject: Re: [AEJMC Newspaper Division list] New name for Newspaper
>> Division?
>>
>>
>>
>> Susan,
>>
>> I agree that industry-specific names don't work well these days for
>> our converging communications system for all the reasons you
>> mentioned.
>>
>>
>>
>> I wonder whether something simple like NEWS would be appropriate.
>> On the other hand, perhaps it is too narrow as our division is
>> concerned with all parts of the newspaper industry, but all parts
>> of the industry impact in one way or another the NEWS aspect.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just a thought. I am glad that a name change will be discussed in
>> Chicago.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dorothy
>>
>>
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> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:26:09 -0400
> From: Susan Keith <susank at scils.rutgers.edu>
> Subject: [AEJMC Newspaper Division list] FW: You're invited to Dart
> 	Reception
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> From: uwdart at u.washington.edu [mailto:uwdart at u.washington.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:17 PM
> To: susank at scils.rutgers.edu
> Subject: You're invited to Dart Reception
>
>
> Dear Susan,
>
>
> The Dart Center for Journalism and Trauma invites you a dessert and wine
> reception on Thursday, Aug. 7 from 8:30 to 10 p.m. at the Chicago
> Marriott
> Downtown, in Ballroom C.
> Dart is hosting this event at the AEJMC summer convention as part of its
> commitment to serving scholars and educators with research on the many
> ways
> in which journalists deal with trauma, tragedy and violence, and helping
> educators prepare the next generation of journalists to understand how
> trauma affects victims, audiences and news workers.
>
> Please share this invitation with your Newspaper Division and other
> AEJMC
> colleagues. I hope to see you in Chicago.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Margaret A. Spratt, Ph.D.
> Associate Director/Academic Programs
> Dart Center for Journalism and Trauma
> Box 353740, Dept. of Communication
> University of Washington
> Seattle, WA 98195-3740
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>
> mspratt at u.washington.edu
> (206) 616-3223
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> Date: Wed,  9 Jul 2008 18:20:32 -0400 (EDT)
> From: <grundmmj at jmu.edu>
> Subject: [AEJMC Newspaper Division list] new name for Newspaper
> 	Division
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> i suggest Print/Online News
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:07:42 -0400
> From: "Bob Stepno" <bob at stepno.com>
> Subject: Re: [AEJMC Newspaper Division list] New name for Newspaper
> 	Division?
> To: "Newspaper Div. members" <news-list at aejmc.net>
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> We talk about Web "pages" where no physical pages are involved and
> "freedom
> of the press" where no pressing goes on. I think "newspaper" is a fine
> name
> to use for any 21st century Web site that features news and that may or
> may
> not print an edition using ink and paper... text, pictures, video,
> audio,
> traditional, alternative or online-only.
>
> (I use "online newspaper" as an inclusive term when referring to CNN's
> Web
> site, NPR, MSNBC, the late Nando.net or the New Haven Independent. I
> encourage others to do the same.)
>
> The name "Newspaper Division" -- with a short mission-statement subtitle
> --
> is my first choice. My second choice would be "News Division." Third
> would
> be (listen to the feathers ruffle) "Journalism Division." The line
> beneath
> that headline on the division Web site should tell the story.
>
> So what /do/  division members study enough to present in that subtitle?
> If
> there's a division whose member can write a great subhead, this must be
> it!
> Mine may be  verbose and too inclusive, but it's a try:
>
> "Focused on the reporting, editing, uses (and gratifications), business,
> culture and significance of the traditional, alternative and online news
> media."
>
> I'm sorry that I won't be in Chicago to talk about this in person. We
> also
> might note parallel organizations: Our interest in business aspects of
> the
> formerly pulp-based newspaper industry parallels that of
> http://www.inma.org-- which now says its "N" stands for "Newsmedia";
> our interest in the
> practice of news and information gathering, editing and presentation
> links
> us with SPJ, ASNE and ACES. And so on.
>
> I'm also rushing out to trademark the title "Traditional, Alternative
> and
> Online: The TAO of Newswork."
>
> cheers,
>
> Bob Stepno
> mild-mannered division web editor
> http://aejmc.net/newspaper
>
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