[AEJMC Newspaper Division list] New name for newspaper
Rosenberry, Jack
JackR at sjfc.edu
Fri Jul 18 12:09:15 CDT 2008
As much as I like the simple elegance of "News Division" or even Gene's suggestion of "News Media," I fear it would be a name with "turf battle" written all over it it, as several others have pointed out. (About the only worse term in that regard would be "Journalism Division.")
I've been reading all the posts with great interest, and am honestly torn in my feelings. I think the rationale Susan has articulated for changing the name is sound, and when she first suggested it to me I thought it sounded very worthwhile. But on the other hand it seems as if all the various alternatives that have arisen through this discussion are flawed in one way or the other (again, as pointed out in several other postings). If we can't come up with something better than what we have, then we don't have a good justification for making such a profound change.
So, I'm going to just keep reading. Keep these well-thought and provocative posts coming, please!
Jack Rosenberry
St. John Fisher College
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I like the news media division idea.
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: New name for Newspaper Division? (guido stempel)
2. Re: New name for Newspaper Division? (Edward C. Pease)
3. FW: You're invited to Dart Reception (Susan Keith)
4. new name for Newspaper Division (grundmmj at jmu.edu)
5. Re: New name for Newspaper Division? (Bob Stepno)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:55:46 -0400
From: guido stempel <stempel at ohio.edu>
Subject: Re: [AEJMC Newspaper Division list] New name for Newspaper
Division?
To: susank at scils.rutgers.edu, news-list at aejmc.net
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Prof. Keith:
I think you are right about the division name. I would suggest News
Media Division.
Guido Stempel
--On Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:16 AM -0400 Susan Keith
<susank at scils.rutgers.edu> wrote:
> Dear Newspaper Division colleagues,
>
> I'm writing to ask you to consider an issue that the division's
executive
> committee will be discussing next month in Chicago: whether the
> Newspaper Division of AEJMC should consider changing its name.
>
> In the July issue of our division newsletter, LeadTime, I argued that
--
> in keeping with AEJMC's focus this year on the future of our field --
our
> division should expand its name to clearly indicate that it embraces
the
> study of online and other types of journalism practiced by newspaper
> companies. If you are away from the location where you receive your
mailed
> copy, you can download a PDF of the newsletter from
> http://aejmc.net/newspaper/leadtime/leadtime_july_2008.pdf But I will
> briefly recap my reasons for suggesting a name change here:
>
> 1. "Newspaper" no longer accurately describes the full range of
products
> that traditional print journalism outlets are producing.
>
> 2. "Newspaper" no longer accurately describes the full range of
> journalistic work that our division members study. At the Chicago
> convention, we will hear research presentations on newspaper online
> interactivity, copy editors' roles in the "digital revolution," online
> citizen journalism and reporters' blogs.
>
> 3. Giving the division a name that accurately reflects the breadth of
our
> interests might help us stem a decline in membership. Although the
> Newspaper Division remains the largest in AEJMC (by just 20 members),
> membership has fallen 13.3 percent since 2004, from 684 to 593. It's
> impossible to say for sure what caused the decline, but it's possible
> that some AEJMC members are not joining our division or renewing
> membership in it because they think all we are concerned with is what
> some view as a dying medium. (I don't share that view, but it is out
> there.)
>
> 4. Giving the division a name that accurately reflects the breadth of
our
> interests might help us stem a decline over the past few years in
paper
> submissions. Again, it's impossible to say for sure why our
submissions
> have been down, but it may be that scholars studying such topics as
> online news sites, for example, have perceived our division as being
> focused only on news printed on paper.
>
> 5. Expanding our division's name to something like "Newspaper and
Online
> Journalism Division" or "Newspaper and Newer Media Division" -- or
some
> better name members suggest -- would let us offer a division home to
the
> scholars who study online and newer media journalism. Some of those
people
> are now affiliated with AEJMC's Communication Technology Division. But
for
> others, whose work is focused more on *journalism* than *technology,*
that
> division may not seem like the perfect fit.
>
> 6. Expanding our division's name might help us better weather any
internal
> reorganization that grows out of adopting the AEJMC Strategic Plan,
which
> members will be asked to vote on in Chicago. (You can read more about
it,
> from my perspective, here:
> http://aejmc.net/newspaper/leadtime/leadtime_march2008.pdf.)
>
> A few of you have already responded to my print column explaining why
you
> do or do not support a name change. I will be sharing your opinions
with
> the membership via this list (unless you asked me not to). I hope that
> this note in your e-mail box will prompt more of you to respond and
share
> your opinions about whether changing the division's name is a good
idea
> and, if so, what the new name should be.
>
> You can share your thoughts by sending a note to the Newspaper
Division
> e-mail list at news-list at aejmc.net I hope you'll share your opinions
> publically, but if you'd rather send them just to me, you may do so at
> susank at scils.rutgers.edu.
>
> I look forward to hearing from you!
>
> Susan Keith, Ph.D.
> 2007-2008 AEJMC Newspaper Division head
> Assistant professor
> Department of Journalism and Media Studies
> School of Communication, Information and Library Studies
> Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:30:28 -0600
From: "Edward C. Pease" <ted.pease at usu.edu>
Subject: Re: [AEJMC Newspaper Division list] New name for Newspaper
Division?
To: Dorothy Bowles <bowles at utk.edu>
Cc: Nancy Green <Nancy.Green at lee.net>, "news-list at aejmc.net"
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I think we should all call ourselves Factoids Instruction Delivery
Gnomes, but FIDG doesn't make a good acronym.
I'm noodling new names for the Newspaper Division that would provide
a good acronym--for essential branding purposes. The best I have so
far are NOD (Newspaper & Online Division) and SNOT (Society for News
and Other Things). Oh, and NADD! (Newspapers Aren't Dead, Dammit!).
Further research is needed.
Too many of us are at our computers during summer and bored enough to
join this conversation. Myself, I'm avoiding editing page proofs.
TED (Totally Erudite Drone)
On Jul 17, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Dorothy Bowles wrote:
> Good point, Nancy. So to avoid redundancy, I guess that leads us to
> the name AEJMC "Content Division."
>
> Dorothy
>
> On Thursday, July 17, 2008, at 02:42 PM, Nancy Green wrote:
>
> News is great but many parts of our new world are centered around
> news/information with information centers being a term that is
> encompassing online, print and other electronic communications like
> texting, podcasts, etc.
>
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>
>
> Susan,
>
> I agree that industry-specific names don't work well these days for
> our converging communications system for all the reasons you
> mentioned.
>
>
>
> I wonder whether something simple like NEWS would be appropriate.
> On the other hand, perhaps it is too narrow as our division is
> concerned with all parts of the newspaper industry, but all parts
> of the industry impact in one way or another the NEWS aspect.
>
>
>
> Just a thought. I am glad that a name change will be discussed in
> Chicago.
>
>
>
> Dorothy
>
>
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Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:26:09 -0400
From: Susan Keith <susank at scils.rutgers.edu>
Subject: [AEJMC Newspaper Division list] FW: You're invited to Dart
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From: uwdart at u.washington.edu [mailto:uwdart at u.washington.edu]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:17 PM
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Subject: You're invited to Dart Reception
Dear Susan,
The Dart Center for Journalism and Trauma invites you a dessert and wine
reception on Thursday, Aug. 7 from 8:30 to 10 p.m. at the Chicago
Marriott
Downtown, in Ballroom C.
Dart is hosting this event at the AEJMC summer convention as part of its
commitment to serving scholars and educators with research on the many
ways
in which journalists deal with trauma, tragedy and violence, and helping
educators prepare the next generation of journalists to understand how
trauma affects victims, audiences and news workers.
Please share this invitation with your Newspaper Division and other
AEJMC
colleagues. I hope to see you in Chicago.
Sincerely,
Margaret A. Spratt, Ph.D.
Associate Director/Academic Programs
Dart Center for Journalism and Trauma
Box 353740, Dept. of Communication
University of Washington
Seattle, WA 98195-3740
mspratt at u.washington.edu
(206) 616-3223
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 18:20:32 -0400 (EDT)
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i suggest Print/Online News
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Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:07:42 -0400
From: "Bob Stepno" <bob at stepno.com>
Subject: Re: [AEJMC Newspaper Division list] New name for Newspaper
Division?
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We talk about Web "pages" where no physical pages are involved and
"freedom
of the press" where no pressing goes on. I think "newspaper" is a fine
name
to use for any 21st century Web site that features news and that may or
may
not print an edition using ink and paper... text, pictures, video,
audio,
traditional, alternative or online-only.
(I use "online newspaper" as an inclusive term when referring to CNN's
Web
site, NPR, MSNBC, the late Nando.net or the New Haven Independent. I
encourage others to do the same.)
The name "Newspaper Division" -- with a short mission-statement subtitle
--
is my first choice. My second choice would be "News Division." Third
would
be (listen to the feathers ruffle) "Journalism Division." The line
beneath
that headline on the division Web site should tell the story.
So what /do/ division members study enough to present in that subtitle?
If
there's a division whose member can write a great subhead, this must be
it!
Mine may be verbose and too inclusive, but it's a try:
"Focused on the reporting, editing, uses (and gratifications), business,
culture and significance of the traditional, alternative and online news
media."
I'm sorry that I won't be in Chicago to talk about this in person. We
also
might note parallel organizations: Our interest in business aspects of
the
formerly pulp-based newspaper industry parallels that of
http://www.inma.org-- which now says its "N" stands for "Newsmedia";
our interest in the
practice of news and information gathering, editing and presentation
links
us with SPJ, ASNE and ACES. And so on.
I'm also rushing out to trademark the title "Traditional, Alternative
and
Online: The TAO of Newswork."
cheers,
Bob Stepno
mild-mannered division web editor
http://aejmc.net/newspaper
http://stepno.com http://stepno.com/blog http://www.radford.edu/comm
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